The way the emails work is based on the “talent needed” a project owner puts on their project page. So if they put say, “vocals, bass, drums” then everyone who has these talents listed on their own profile pages will get an email saying there is a project looking for these particular talent.
I don’t think what you are saying is really indicative of the activity on ProCollabs, mostly, when there is a new project it will have the initial concept as a foundation which could be a full instrumental overview or a vocal line and lyricsa, and then the project owner will look for collaborators to jump in to bring in talents they are looking for. A lot of times the initial concepts help to spark other members creative thoughts and an amazing track takes shape.
Yes, there are projects where someone is using loops to create a piece of music which is fine by us as we try to encourage all genres, but there is also a wide spectrum of original compositions recorded with a range of instruments. Given ProCollabs has a really eclectic mix of members from owners of fully fledged studios and working musicians right through to members who use as you say “fruity loops” there is always going to be mix of styles and levels.
Maybe try searching the open projects for the space/style/genre/standard you are looking to collaborate in, I’m sure you’ll find something that works for you.
Alternatively, why not load a project of your own, and invite some other members whose style and material appeals to you?
We did have a series of opportunities open to all members of ProCollabs from Producers, TV and Radio Stations, Agents and Producers who were looking for very specific tracks, but we struggled to get much traction or interaction going on them so we stopped doing it, but if there was enough demand we would start it up again.
Hope this offers some answers to the questions you raised and I hope you find some projects to collaborate on that inspire you :-)
Steve
Melody
Lyric
You can also copyright the production, but you need a song to make a production of! Perhaps I just haven't been on the platform long enough, but - again - I've yet to see anything but backing tracks.
Originally posted by therealex on Tue 04 Dec, 2018
I guess it depends what you’re looking for and expect from a collaboration site. Personally, I think predominantly what happens is you’ll get either a music track or outline vocals as a starting point and the project holder then looks for others to jump onboard.
What you’re saying is a much more prescriptive requirement, so more: here’s the chord structure and melody can someone write me some lyrics to fit and/or do some vocals. I don’t think that really happens very often here - not that it is wrong by any means, it’s a great way of writing - just not that common here. It’s feels it’s more like someone writes the music, another person does the lyrics and/or vocals/melody, or vice-versa :-)
I've been getting a lot of emails from ProCollabs about projects, but they're almost exclusively stuff like this:
"Song in the style of "name_an_artist_or_genre", need vocals (male), vocals (female), drums, bass, keys."
I go to see what it's about, and it's invariably someone who used Fruity Loops or Band In A Box (both great programs, btw, not putting them down) to make a basic track. No lyrics? No melody?
It's like the person who puts out an ad: "I have a FANTASTIC idea for a book. All you have to do is write it and we'll split the profits 50-50!"
This is not "pro".
Nor does it usually give a reason for the project. Something like:
"Hey, I'm recording an album that will be distributed on the indy label "XYZ". We want to release in month/year and we're planning on doing a promo campaign with "thisagency". This would be a "work for hire/percentage/guarantee against percentage" deal if we use your track."
or
"I'm pushing this for a TV show that's coming up. I've met the music supervisor and it will definitely get consideration."
or
"I'm building a portfolio of my work. I can't pay much, but maybe we can work out a trade because I do web programming/graphics/some damn thing"
Is this an unrealistic expectation on my part? I've not seen one single project that has any of that information.
- Russ
Originally posted by therealex on Sun 25 Nov, 2018
I wouldn't take it too seriously. I think most people are here just for the fun and musical commeraderie. :)
Hope this helps. If not, be sure of one thing: I AM SERIOUS about leaving my monkey job. It's a longshot, but I won't know if I don't give it every spare minute I have. Luckily, I have no life outside of work! :) Gotta start somewhere, my friend.
John
I've been getting a lot of emails from ProCollabs about projects, but they're almost exclusively stuff like this:
"Song in the style of "name_an_artist_or_genre", need vocals (male), vocals (female), drums, bass, keys."
I go to see what it's about, and it's invariably someone who used Fruity Loops or Band In A Box (both great programs, btw, not putting them down) to make a basic track. No lyrics? No melody?
It's like the person who puts out an ad: "I have a FANTASTIC idea for a book. All you have to do is write it and we'll split the profits 50-50!"
This is not "pro".
Nor does it usually give a reason for the project. Something like:
"Hey, I'm recording an album that will be distributed on the indy label "XYZ". We want to release in month/year and we're planning on doing a promo campaign with "thisagency". This would be a "work for hire/percentage/guarantee against percentage" deal if we use your track."
or
"I'm pushing this for a TV show that's coming up. I've met the music supervisor and it will definitely get consideration."
or
"I'm building a portfolio of my work. I can't pay much, but maybe we can work out a trade because I do web programming/graphics/some damn thing"
Is this an unrealistic expectation on my part? I've not seen one single project that has any of that information.
- Russ